PENN JILLETTE (with special guest MICHAEL GOUDEAU)

Harrison interviews the epic Penn Jillette and finds out why combining stand-up and magic is so hard, the method to flipping the creative process to make better magic, if magic has gotten better over the last 45 years Penn & Teller has been performing, and if there was a secret cabal coordinating the shows, "BS," "Mythbusters," and "South Park."  With special guest Michael Goudeau.

Presented by the International Brotherhood of Magicians.