S4:E16 - Jess and Jared recap and discuss “What If..."
The third-third-of-the-season premiere has finally come, and we're finally all the way in the Framework!
Despite being a Hydra Agent along with May and Daisy, wait, I mean Skye, NPC Framework Ward is *super* likable and charming, and we don't love it! Jemma was dead in the Framework, but crawled her out with a view from those who aren't Hydra Agents in their virtual fascist new world order, and sees how Inhumans were used to exploit everyone's fear and prejudice. Coulson is a paranoid teacher struggling with his role teaching propaganda, but not quite ready to understand the truth of their new reality and accept Jemma's attempt to bring his true self to the surface. And Jemma drops the straight dope on Hydra being all Nazis, "and don't you let anyone forget it."
We talk a bit about Carrie-Anne Moss being the best part of Netflix's corner of Marvel, and our asides go off track maybe more than ever before as we get to the bottom of Willem Defoe's, reportedly, "confusingly large" penis, in real time as we recorded. Our apologies/you're welcome.
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