1.2: Belonging vs Fitting In - inclusivity & the creative process with composer Ella Jarman-Pinto

In this episode we talk to composer Ella Jarman-Pinto about her own podcast: "Beyond the Chameleon - Conversations on Belonging in the Creative Media Industries" and how important it is to have conversations about how those who are often excluded and oppressed can have a voice and be recognised in the arts. We also look at Ella's creative process in creating the jingle for the Music Works podcast.
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