When winning isn’t winning: John Neal

When does an obsession with winning become unhealthy? John Neal is head of coach development at the England and Wales cricket board, and he has extensive experience as a performance psychologist, within rugby, football and cricket. He has also worked with men's and women's teams at three World Cups across two sports. Despite setting out to help teams win, John's relationship with "winning" has evolved over his many years in sport. He came to see that trophies and titles isn't what it's all about, and that focussing on the outcome makes you not only less likely to enjoy your daily experience – but also less likely to win. In this episode there is also an announcement about the future of DTMTS, which will be heading to pastures new from April. @simonmundie