Blind mums and counting steps - repeat

What's it like bringing a new child into the world when you can't see? Ouch's Emma Tracey had a baby last year and has been learning how to do it ... and how things are a bit different for blind mums.

In this podcast from August 2015, we caught up with her when her son was just 16 weeks old.

The conversation then turns to keeping fit and trying to keep the weight off which is that bit more difficult if you're disabled.

With Emma Tracey, Damon Rose and Kathleen Hawkins.

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