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Everything 100 Episodes Revealed About AI Native Dev

When did writing code stop being the job and start being the hobby?One hundred episodes in, Guy Podjarny and Simon Maple pull the clips, check the predictions, and trace the through line across conversations with guests from Datadog, ElevenLabs, GitHub, and more.They get into:The move from spec-driven to context-driven developmentWhy humans become the bottleneck in code reviewWhat changes when agents run the SDLC end-to-endAdoption across orgs vs depth of actual usageThanks to every guest and every listener who made this possible. On to the next hundred.Want to have these conversations in person? AI DevCon is coming to London on 1st and 2nd June, 2026.Book your tickets here - https://tessl.io/devcon/Connect with us here: Guy Podjarny- https://www.linkedin.com/in/guypo/Simon Maple- https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

How DeepSeek leveraged Qwen and Llama to build its model in $5M

Meta’s Llama might not actually be open source AI, and the developers building on it have no idea.In this episode of AI Native Dev, Simon Maple sits down with Amanda Brock, CEO of OpenUK, to break down what open source actually means in the age of AI and why most of the industry is getting it wrong.They get into:what open washing is and why it is happening across major models right nowhow DeepSeek built a frontier model for $5 million instead of $100 millionwhy Chinese developers are already on Kimi and the west is sleeping on itwhat the west needs to learn from China's open source strategy before it is too lateEight companies already control the world's digital infrastructure. We cannot let that happen again with AI.Connect with us here:Simon Maple: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/Amanda Brock: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandabrocktech/OpenUK: https://www.linkedin.com/company/openuktechnology/?originalSubdomain=ukTessl: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

Why Every Developer needs to know about WebMCP Now

An agent cannot read your website. And that needs to change.In this episode of AI Native Dev, Guy Podjarny sits down with Maximiliano Firtman, 30-year web developer and author of 14 books, to talk about what building for the web looks like when traffic comes from agents and humans both.They get into:why AI agents taking screenshots of your website is inefficient and expensivewhat Web MCP is and how it gives agents a direct API into your websitehow a 200MB Apple model running offline is opening up a whole new category of web appswhy every vibe coded app is a web app and what that means for the future of the webYour next visitor might not be human. Are you ready for that?Connect with us here: Maximiliano Firtman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/firtman/?locale=esGuy Podjarny: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/guypoTessl: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

Stop Maintaining Your Code. Start Replacing It

"The code that we have is a liability. The system is the asset we're building."Chad Fowler, VC at Blue Yard Capital and former CTO at Wunderlist, sits down with Guy Podjarny to discuss the Phoenix Architecture: software designed to be replaced rather than maintained.In this episode:• why was the code written by Chad never longer than a page• how he replaced 70% of a codebase in 3 months and cut costs by 75%• shipping AI code no human ever reviewed, and how to make it safe• the shadow specs your agents are making without you• why your system should work with the worst LLM, not just the bestIf you're still thinking about your codebase the old way, this one will change that.Connect with us here: Chad Fowler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fowlerchad/Blue Yard Capital: https://www.linkedin.com/company/blueyard-capital/Guy Podjarny: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/guypoTessl: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

We Scanned 3,984 Skills — 1 in 7 Can Hack Your Machine

Most developers install skills without reading what's inside them. But that's exactly what attackers are counting on.Simon Maple sits down with Brian Vermeer from Snyk at DevNexus to get into the security risk hiding inside the skills and MCPs running on your local machine. They scanned over 4,000 skills and found that 1 in 7 had at least one critical security vulnerability.Here’s what you need to know:Why prompting your agent to write secure code doesn't make it secureHow a trusted skill can update silently and start offloading your credentialsWhat prompt injection actually looks like inside a skill fileWhy vibe coding makes the attack surface bigger, not smallerHow the Snyk agent scan catches what you'd never spot manuallyEvery skill on the Tessl registry now has a Snyk security scan attached. Check before you install.Connect with us here: Simon Maple: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/Brian Vermeer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianvermeer/Snyk: https://www.linkedin.com/company/snyk/Tessl: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io