Luther: Series 2 🎭 Discussion & Review Podcast | Neil Cross TV

How did Luther change in series 2? Crime mythology, dadcore storytelling, Alice magnetism, brazen corruption, illicit fun, video game killers, endearing moral disinterest, fandom-building, & more are discussed as we look at the second series of Luther, Neil Cross’ detective show starring Idris Elba and Ruth Wilson.

https://youtu.be/aTmMNsEhBBw

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https://archive.org/download/2023-04-luther-s-2/2023%20%2304%20Luther%20S2.mp3

TIMECODES

(00:00:00) Differences from series 1
(00:11:58) Character development in series 2
(00:14:55) Jenny + paternal Luther
(00:19:39) Male fantasy characters
(00:24:45) Ripley + Erin
(00:32:44) High stakes + Mark returning
(00:36:31) London & Gotham
(00:41:27) Flowing on from series 1’s ending
(00:47:06) British context of airing
(00:51:59) London crime
(00:54:21) Strata of time + dead city killer
(01:01:10) Serial killer mythologising + cretinised culture
(01:07:07) Luther healing, Alice surprises, ‘one last ride’
(01:10:43) Alice & Luther magnetism + moral disinterest
(01:18:07) Narcissism & Luther
(01:29:23) Luther’s new London flat + Mark’s safehouse
(01:35:06) Fandoms & popularity: mysticism, opportunities, genre
(01:54:02) Idris Elba + Luther without/before Alice
(02:00:00) Idris Elba’s input + 2011 context
(02:05:39) S2 songs, bookends, ending
(02:13:31) Final showdown + Cross & video games
(02:20:31) Toby & Jenny + murder & Luther
(02:25:21) Jenny’s character
(02:28:44) The twins reveal
(02:33:43) London gangsters + leaving the police
(02:35:41) The service station scene
(02:39:52) Humiliation, ringing phones, microexpressions
(02:43:07) Backstory for Jenny’s family
(02:44:55) Overall series 2 thoughts

SOURCES

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2.
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Cross, Neil. “Luther Creator Neil Cross Talks Luther.” BBC iPlayer, 29 May 2011, 01:07-01:25, https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00h58kb

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11.
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12.
~2h0m28s
Elba, Idris. “DP/30 Emmy Watch: Luther, actor idris Elba.” Interview with David Poland. YouTube, uploaded by DP/30: The Oral History of Hollywood, 3 June 2011, 17:15-19:10, https://youtu.be/lBLSinQjToA

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Elba, Idris. “DP/30 Emmy Watch: Luther, actor idris Elba.” Interview with David Poland. YouTube, uploaded by DP/30: The Oral History of Hollywood, 3 June 2011, 19:39-20:40, https://youtu.be/lBLSinQjToA

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