E21 - Fighting Security Monsters Through Psychology

In this episode, Brian and Milou engage in a thought-provoking conversation with Zach Eikenberry about the psychology behind security training. They explore how to make security training more engaging and effective by understanding human behavior, the role of gamification, and the importance of tailoring training programs to meet the needs of employees. The discussion also touches on the challenges of compliance, the impact of technology on security awareness, and the future of privacy in an increasingly open digital world. Zach emphasizes the need to socialize security within organizations to foster a culture of awareness and proactive behavior against cyber threats.

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00:00 Introduction
03:52 Using Psychology in Security Training
08:16 Gamification Isn't Necessarily Engaging
12:59 The Mixed Results of Team-based Training
16:40 Psychology Use in the MGM Breach
17:59 AI In Social Engineering
22:54 The Importance of Socializing Security
29:03 Designing a Training Program to Engage Learners
33:51 The Parting Question: Privacy vs. Security
39:04 Engaging Insights on Security Training
43:20 Conclusion