Thought Leadership and Jason Van Orden
Today, we’re delighted to have a returning guest all the way from New York City - Jason Van Orden. It’s his fault we started this podcast in the first pla...
Thought Leadership and Jason Van Orden
Today, we’re delighted to have a returning guest all the way from New York City - Jason Van Orden. It’s his fault we started this podcast in the first place! Jason was last talking to us about being your best self and now he’s here to talk about thought leadership.
Thankfully, Jason is recovering from some coronavirus symptoms. Now he’s emerged from the other side to speak to us. Thank you so much Jason!
Do you find there is a gap between the idea of thought leadership and the people with good ideas?
The gap is in a few different places. Often, the people Jason works with are recognised experts in their field but realise they could reach more people with their ideas. As a result, a lot of them do have that desire but maybe haven’t built the brand that goes beyond their nice industry.
Also, when they start looking at digital marketing, they don’t really resonate with the marketing practices that are going on. They’re looking for something that is more congruent with the way they want to go about building their brand. Jason has positioned himself in a place where he has translated all his digital marketing knowledge and helped them implement these in a way that is well-aligned to their sense of self, branding, values, goals, etc.
These are a couple of gaps Jason has seen and felt like he can fill.
One other gap is that some clients know the importance of thought leadership. Maybe they’ve written a book; however, they’ve come to realise a book is not a business model. In order to do build income streams around this emerging brand, Jason helps them to outreach their current reach and get back to the business side of things.
Books and business
On the podcast, we have had many guests talk about books and authority. Books are a great way to establish yourself as an expert. It elevates brand and visibility. But, the money that comes from a book doesn’t make a lot of money and automatically build a strong stream of income.
Jason recommends the best thing to do is to write the book already knowing how it’s going to fit into your business model. The book should give more eyeballs which drives the process of nurturing leads - getting someone onto an email list, for example.
http://thenext100days.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Books-and-business.mp4
Translating thought leadership
Making things simple for people to understand is really hard. But Jason is really good at making difficult things seem attainable.
One of the things Jason does is point out his clients’ strengths. Thought leadership can manifest in different forms. This caters to the way everyone has different styles of synthesising, translating and filtering information for people and inspiring them into action.
One of Jason’s philosophies is to build frameworks out of information and thus helping his clients do the same. This was born out of his skill in translating information into simple, digestible sections (as Graham attested to).
http://thenext100days.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Translating.mp4
Why frameworks?
To organise the information well and make it simpler to follow
Formulas don’t necessarily translate well into other people’s businesses, and social/economic/business/personal contexts. Frameworks preserve the principles and foundations of what you’re teaching. But, leaves 20-30% space for the receiver to impose their values, goals, etc. Then, in the long term the framework feels good rather than a trap.
Jason’s new podcast
On Jason’s new podcast, he is going through frameworks. This is a way to make his podcast stands out as the business market in podcasting has grown significantly from when he first started a podcast back in 2010. His initiative is to create a sort of workshop for each podcast. At the end, there’s always a downloadable resource to go along with the episode. Therefore, he offers more value and helps keep the podcast helpful and actionable for the l...
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