Although the Religious Right is on a winning streak at the Supreme Court, data shows it’s losing in the court of public opinion. Gallop reports more Americans than ever no longer believe in God, and only a minority of Americans share the political and cultural beliefs of conservative evangelicals. The Holy Post crew responds to a Jesuit priest’s article wondering if overturning Roe was worth the costs, and congresswoman Lauren Boebert says the church should be running the government. But which church does she have in mind? Then Skye talks to mother and daughter, Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley, about their book “Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church.” Nancy pioneered the seeker-driven megachurch movement at Willow Creek, but also experienced its toxicity and collapse. Her daughter, Samantha, is now a pastor seeking to apply the lessons—both positive and negative—from her megachurch upbringing to a new generation. Plus, the New York Supreme Court makes a jumbo ruling.
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News Segment
0:00 - Intro
2:21 - Christian’s travelogue and other updates
5:45 - Happy the Elephant
14:03 - More SCOTUS rulings
23:27 - Christian Right losing in public opinion
30:38 - Costs of overturning Roe
46:07 - Americans’ belief in God is dropping
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Interview with Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley
“Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church” - https://amzn.to/3nHnA68
Nancy Beach - http://www.nancylbeach.com/
Samantha Beach Kiley - www.samanthabeach.work
56:04 - Relevance and trust
1:03:24 - Beyond content delivery
1:08:02 - Experiencing other traditions
1:10:59 - Blind spots and overcorrecting
1:18:00 - Church leadership culture
1:27:42 - Credits
Articles referenced in news segment:
“Happy the elephant is not a person, New York’s highest court rules” - https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/happy-the-elephant-is-not-a-person-new-yorks-highest-court-rules
“The Christian Right is winning in court while losing in public opinion” (NPR) - https://www.npr.org/2022/07/01/1109141110/the-christian-right-is-winning-cultural-battles-while-public-opinion-disagrees
“What has the demise of Roe v. Wade cost the Catholic Church?” by Thomas Reese (Religion News Service) - https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/what-has-demise-roe-v-wade-cost-catholic-church
“Poll: Americans’ belief in God is dropping” - https://religionnews.com/2022/06/21/poll-americans-belief-in-god-is-dropping/
Resource mentioned in interview:
“The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters” by Priya Parker - https://amzn.to/3akrxui
604: Faulty Foot Washing & Pagan Christianity with Nijay Gupta
603: The Politics of Fear & Rethinking the Cross with Brian Zahnd
602: When Vischer Met Reiner
French Friday: Why D.E.I. is the New C.R.T.
601: Never Church Evangelicals and Hopeful Politics with Michael Wear
600: Not Debating Trump & Being Like Jesus with John Mark Comer
599: Paganism Returns & a New New Testament with Scot McKnight
598: Mailbag: Picking Churches, Candidates, & Careers
French Friday: Why Fundamentalism is Growing
597: Holy Post Live!
596: The Surprising Origins of Christmas in America with W. David O. Taylor
595: Iowa’s Satanic Panic & Finding Faith Amid Bad Religion with Todd Hunter
Are the Kids Alright? EPISODE 6: Tenx10 and the Importance of Relational Discipleship with Ray Chang
594: How Fear & Greed Corrupted American Evangelicalism with Tim Alberta
French Friday: The 14th Amendment & the Evangelical Approach to Politics
593: Pro-Israeli, Pro-Palestinian, Pro-Peace with Todd Deatherage
Are the Kids Alright? EPISODE 5: How to Walk Alongside Gen Z with Tanita Maddox
592: The Evangelical Bro Code & Debriefing America’s Border Crisis with Matthew Soerens and Carmen Imes
Are the Kids Alright? EPISODE 4: Why Gen Z is Leaving the Church with Ryan Burge
591: The Social Gospel Strikes Back & Plodding Through Life with Drew Dyck
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