Although the Religious Right is on a winning streak at the Supreme Court, data shows it’s losing in the court of public opinion. Gallop reports more Americans than ever no longer believe in God, and only a minority of Americans share the political and cultural beliefs of conservative evangelicals. The Holy Post crew responds to a Jesuit priest’s article wondering if overturning Roe was worth the costs, and congresswoman Lauren Boebert says the church should be running the government. But which church does she have in mind? Then Skye talks to mother and daughter, Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley, about their book “Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church.” Nancy pioneered the seeker-driven megachurch movement at Willow Creek, but also experienced its toxicity and collapse. Her daughter, Samantha, is now a pastor seeking to apply the lessons—both positive and negative—from her megachurch upbringing to a new generation. Plus, the New York Supreme Court makes a jumbo ruling.
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News Segment
0:00 - Intro
2:21 - Christian’s travelogue and other updates
5:45 - Happy the Elephant
14:03 - More SCOTUS rulings
23:27 - Christian Right losing in public opinion
30:38 - Costs of overturning Roe
46:07 - Americans’ belief in God is dropping
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Interview with Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley
“Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church” - https://amzn.to/3nHnA68
Nancy Beach - http://www.nancylbeach.com/
Samantha Beach Kiley - www.samanthabeach.work
56:04 - Relevance and trust
1:03:24 - Beyond content delivery
1:08:02 - Experiencing other traditions
1:10:59 - Blind spots and overcorrecting
1:18:00 - Church leadership culture
1:27:42 - Credits
Articles referenced in news segment:
“Happy the elephant is not a person, New York’s highest court rules” - https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/happy-the-elephant-is-not-a-person-new-yorks-highest-court-rules
“The Christian Right is winning in court while losing in public opinion” (NPR) - https://www.npr.org/2022/07/01/1109141110/the-christian-right-is-winning-cultural-battles-while-public-opinion-disagrees
“What has the demise of Roe v. Wade cost the Catholic Church?” by Thomas Reese (Religion News Service) - https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/what-has-demise-roe-v-wade-cost-catholic-church
“Poll: Americans’ belief in God is dropping” - https://religionnews.com/2022/06/21/poll-americans-belief-in-god-is-dropping/
Resource mentioned in interview:
“The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters” by Priya Parker - https://amzn.to/3akrxui
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544: MLK, Reparations, & the Benefits of Awe
543: Women and the Gender of God with Amy Peeler
542: How to Repair American Evangelicalism with Walter Kim
French Friday: Free Speech & Social Media
541: Rethinking Heaven, the Harrowing of Hell, & Christian Civics with Michael Wear
540: Top Stories of ’22, “Tots of Scorn,” & the Naughty List with a Secret Guest
539: Megachurch Christmas Controversy & Answers in Exodus with Carmen Imes
538: Rotten Pastoral Restoration & the Power of Pain with Drew Dyck
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French Friday: The Case for Civil Same-Sex Marriage
537: The War Over Christmas Movies & Gen Z’s Mental Health with Josh Packard
536: Listener Voicemails! Archeology, Abortion, & Avoiding Holiday Family Arguments
Episode 535: What Does the Global Church Believe About Guns? with Morgan Lee
Episode 534: Does Ministry Matter More than the Marketplace? with Joe Leininger
Episode 533: Why Do We Struggle with the Sabbath? with Ruth Haley Barton
French Friday: What Abortion Abolitionists Get Wrong
Episode 532: How Would Jesus Fight the Culture War? with Mike Erre
Episode 531: What’s Wrong with Christian Nationalism? with Paul D. Miller
Episode 530: Can We Still Trust the News? with Bonnie Kristian
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