Although the Religious Right is on a winning streak at the Supreme Court, data shows it’s losing in the court of public opinion. Gallop reports more Americans than ever no longer believe in God, and only a minority of Americans share the political and cultural beliefs of conservative evangelicals. The Holy Post crew responds to a Jesuit priest’s article wondering if overturning Roe was worth the costs, and congresswoman Lauren Boebert says the church should be running the government. But which church does she have in mind? Then Skye talks to mother and daughter, Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley, about their book “Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church.” Nancy pioneered the seeker-driven megachurch movement at Willow Creek, but also experienced its toxicity and collapse. Her daughter, Samantha, is now a pastor seeking to apply the lessons—both positive and negative—from her megachurch upbringing to a new generation. Plus, the New York Supreme Court makes a jumbo ruling.
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News Segment
0:00 - Intro
2:21 - Christian’s travelogue and other updates
5:45 - Happy the Elephant
14:03 - More SCOTUS rulings
23:27 - Christian Right losing in public opinion
30:38 - Costs of overturning Roe
46:07 - Americans’ belief in God is dropping
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Interview with Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley
“Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church” - https://amzn.to/3nHnA68
Nancy Beach - http://www.nancylbeach.com/
Samantha Beach Kiley - www.samanthabeach.work
56:04 - Relevance and trust
1:03:24 - Beyond content delivery
1:08:02 - Experiencing other traditions
1:10:59 - Blind spots and overcorrecting
1:18:00 - Church leadership culture
1:27:42 - Credits
Articles referenced in news segment:
“Happy the elephant is not a person, New York’s highest court rules” - https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/happy-the-elephant-is-not-a-person-new-yorks-highest-court-rules
“The Christian Right is winning in court while losing in public opinion” (NPR) - https://www.npr.org/2022/07/01/1109141110/the-christian-right-is-winning-cultural-battles-while-public-opinion-disagrees
“What has the demise of Roe v. Wade cost the Catholic Church?” by Thomas Reese (Religion News Service) - https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/what-has-demise-roe-v-wade-cost-catholic-church
“Poll: Americans’ belief in God is dropping” - https://religionnews.com/2022/06/21/poll-americans-belief-in-god-is-dropping/
Resource mentioned in interview:
“The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters” by Priya Parker - https://amzn.to/3akrxui
French Friday: How to Thrive in a Post-Christian Culture
562: Fox Fires Tucker, Toxic Gun Culture, & Rethinking Revivals with Derwin Gray
561: How the Evangelical Movement Failed a Generation with Jon Ward
560: The Rise of Retaliation Politics & How to Suffer Well with Alan Noble
559: The Nashville Shooting & Preaching to a Divided Nation with Matthew Kim & Paul Hoffman
French Friday: Transgenderism & Parental Rights
558: Saddleback vs the SBC & Misusing the Marriage Metaphor with Beth Felker Jones & Amy Peeler
557: The Rise of Christian Nashville-ism & What Christians Must Do with Claude Alexander
556: Teen Mental Health Revisited & Digital Discipleship with Nona Jones
555: “The Article” & Biblical Critical Theory with Christopher Watkin
554 Teenage Girls in Crisis & Rethinking Revelation with Scot McKnight
French Friday: The Real Masculinity Crisis
553: Revival Tourism & Christ vs Christians with Beth Moore
552 Jesus Gets Us & We Get Data on Christian Nationalists with Kristin Kobes Du Mez Vu
551 Power, Pacifism, & Being Consistently Pro-Life with Shane Claiborne
550 Demons, Democrats, & Dominionists, Oh My!
549 MLK, Black Voices & A New Book on Lent w/Esau McCaulley
548 Andy Stanley, Spirit Warriors & The Greatest Threat To Christianity
547 French Friday: Selling Out, Gay Wedding Websites, & How People Change
546 England’s Same-Sex Marriage Compromise & Brazil’s January 6th
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