Anthropic's Chief on A.I.: ‘We Don’t Know if the Models Are Conscious’
Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Anthropic’s Chief on A.I.: ‘We Don’t Know if the Models Are Conscious’

2026-02-12
A.I. is evolving fast, and humanity is falling behind. Dario Amodei, the chief executive of Anthropic, has warned about the potential benefits — and real dangers — linked to the speed of that progress. As one of the lords of this technology, is he on the side of the human race?01:37 - The promise and optimism of A.I.12:59 - White collar 'bloodbats25:09 - Robotics and physical labor30:16 - The first “dangerous” scenario42:22 - What if it goes rogue?48:01 - Claude’s constitut...
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