Guest: Angela Duckworth, professor at the University of Pennsylvania and author of Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance
“There’s got to be a cost” when you pursue your passions, says University of Pennsylvania professor Angela Duckworth; in fact, the word “passion” comes from the Latin word for “suffering.” But that doesn’t mean that gritty people are unhappy. After the time needed for sleep, daily exercise, friends, and family, Dr. Duckworth explains, “what’s left is more than 40 hours.” Informed by her research and her own happiness, she tries to discourage her students from settling for a 9 to 5 life: “There’s so many people that exemplify a life of dedication, and hard work, and of happiness, and humor, and friends, and family, that I think we should tell young people, ‘Look, don't assume that's not possible.’”
In this episode, Angela and Joubin discuss being punctual, Danny Kahneman, AP Calculus, moving the finish line, teaching grit to children, Arthur Ashe, Diana Nyad, passion and sacrifice, hiring gritty people, “change your situation,” Marc Leder and Rodger Krouse, Invictus, ChatGPT, neural autopilot, and Steve Jobs.
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#166 Executive Chairman and Former CEO Attentive, Brian Long: Problem Hunting
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#163 CEO Bill, René Lacerte: Hourglass Leadership
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#161 Founder and EVP of Oracle NetSuite, Evan Goldberg: Endless Possibilities
#160 CEO Grammarly, Rahul Roy-Chowdhury: Better, Not More
#159 CEO 1Password, Jeff Shiner: Chief Eliminator of Obstacles
#158 CRO Anduril Industries, Matt Steckman: On Defense
#157 CEO Udemy, Greg Brown: The Plunge
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#155 CEO Yahoo, Jim Lanzone: Brand Rejuvenation
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