Guest: Angela Duckworth, professor at the University of Pennsylvania and author of Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance
“There’s got to be a cost” when you pursue your passions, says University of Pennsylvania professor Angela Duckworth; in fact, the word “passion” comes from the Latin word for “suffering.” But that doesn’t mean that gritty people are unhappy. After the time needed for sleep, daily exercise, friends, and family, Dr. Duckworth explains, “what’s left is more than 40 hours.” Informed by her research and her own happiness, she tries to discourage her students from settling for a 9 to 5 life: “There’s so many people that exemplify a life of dedication, and hard work, and of happiness, and humor, and friends, and family, that I think we should tell young people, ‘Look, don't assume that's not possible.’”
In this episode, Angela and Joubin discuss being punctual, Danny Kahneman, AP Calculus, moving the finish line, teaching grit to children, Arthur Ashe, Diana Nyad, passion and sacrifice, hiring gritty people, “change your situation,” Marc Leder and Rodger Krouse, Invictus, ChatGPT, neural autopilot, and Steve Jobs.
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#126 CRO Gem, Lesley Young: Hard Yards
#125 CRO Starburst, Javier Molina: Reading Cues
#124 Founding CRO at Procore, Dennis Lyandres: Defining "Winning"
#123 CEO GitHub, Thomas Dohmke: Open-Source Values
#122 President and Board Member at Freshworks, Dennis Woodside: What If This Goes Really Well?
#121 Founder and Co-CEO Brex, Henrique Dubugras: Pivot or Else
#120 Chairman & CEO ServiceNow, Bill McDermott: Full Speed Ahead
#119 Co-founder and CEO Gong, Amit Bendov: No Royalty
#118 Dean of Stanford GSB, Jonathan Levin: Innovation Engines
#117 Co-founder and COO Cloudflare, Michelle Zatlyn: A Better Internet
#116 Grit Recap: 9 Intersections of Personal and Professional
#115 Executive Board Member at SAP, Scott Russell: Chief Optimist Officer
#114 CMO GE, Linda Boff: Play ‘Til the Whistle
#113 CEO PagerDuty, Jennifer Tejada: The Re-Finder
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