Guest: Angela Duckworth, professor at the University of Pennsylvania and author of Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance
“There’s got to be a cost” when you pursue your passions, says University of Pennsylvania professor Angela Duckworth; in fact, the word “passion” comes from the Latin word for “suffering.” But that doesn’t mean that gritty people are unhappy. After the time needed for sleep, daily exercise, friends, and family, Dr. Duckworth explains, “what’s left is more than 40 hours.” Informed by her research and her own happiness, she tries to discourage her students from settling for a 9 to 5 life: “There’s so many people that exemplify a life of dedication, and hard work, and of happiness, and humor, and friends, and family, that I think we should tell young people, ‘Look, don't assume that's not possible.’”
In this episode, Angela and Joubin discuss being punctual, Danny Kahneman, AP Calculus, moving the finish line, teaching grit to children, Arthur Ashe, Diana Nyad, passion and sacrifice, hiring gritty people, “change your situation,” Marc Leder and Rodger Krouse, Invictus, ChatGPT, neural autopilot, and Steve Jobs.
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#110 Former CRO / Advisor at Notion, Olivia Nottebohm: Grow Fast or Die Slow
#109 Co-founder and CEO, Databricks Ali Ghodsi: The Difference Between Truth and Data
#108 COO Zscaler, Dali Rajic: If You’re Not Always Learning, You’ll Get Wiped Out
#107 Founding CRO at Flexport, Ben Braverman: The Power of Genuine Curiosity
#106 Co-founder & CEO Sweetgreen, Jonathan Neman: The Restaurant Company of the Future
#105 AOL Founder & CEO Revolution, Steve Case: The Rise of the Rest
#104 Co-founder of Intuit, Scott Cook: The Power of Paradigms
#103 Founder & CEO Productboard, Hubert Palan w/ Ilya Fushman: Chasing Perfection
#102 CEO Qualcomm, Cristiano Amon: We’re In a Hurry to Get to the Future
#101 CEO Google Cloud, Thomas Kurian: Competitor-Aware and Customer-Obsessed
#100 Chairman of Kleiner Perkins, John Doerr: Getting Into Trouble with Disruptors
CEO Touch the Top, Erik Weihenmayer: Climbing Everest Blind
Co-founder and CEO G2, Godard Abel: Finding Opportunity in Challenging Times
Founding CRO @HubSpot / Prof @HBS / CoFounder @Stage 2 Capital Mark Roberge: The Science and Psychology of Scaling
CMO Canva, Zach Kitschke: From Employee Number 5 To $40 Billion Valuation
Founder & CEO Freshworks, Girish Mathrubootham: Success Is In the Big Things, Happiness Is In the Small Things
CMO Riot Games, Jason Bunge: Change Is Inevitable, Get Used To It
Co-Founder & CEO Charm Industrial, Peter Reinhardt: “All That Matters Is What the Customers Are Telling You”
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