Guest: Daniela Amodei, President and co-founder of Anthropic
With a reported valuation of as much as $18 billion, Anthropic has the resources to be one of the dominant AI companies in Silicon Valley; however, it was conceived as a public benefit corporation and always tries to strike a balance between hypergrowth and responsibility. Anthropic’s flagship LLM, Claude, must adhere to a “constitution” of values that prioritize the good of humanity. And even though every company wants to “do AI” right now, President Daniela Amodei says some of them should slow down. “I keep coming back to this idea of, ‘How much are you buying the hype?’” she says. “’How grounded are you in the reality of what's actually happening?’ And sometimes in business conversations, we tell a potential customer, ‘We don't think we're right for you.’”
In this episode, Daniela and Joubin discuss her brother Dario, staying grounded, hypergrowth startups, Claire Hughes Johnson, mechanistic interpretability, Paul Graham, AI training, what AI companies can learn from social media, Stripe, the pool of venture capital in the Bay Area, leading people, giving feedback to all your coworkers, interview questions, and Sheryl Sandberg.
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#107 Founding CRO at Flexport, Ben Braverman: The Power of Genuine Curiosity
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#105 AOL Founder & CEO Revolution, Steve Case: The Rise of the Rest
#104 Co-founder of Intuit, Scott Cook: The Power of Paradigms
#103 Founder & CEO Productboard, Hubert Palan w/ Ilya Fushman: Chasing Perfection
#102 CEO Qualcomm, Cristiano Amon: We’re In a Hurry to Get to the Future
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#100 Chairman of Kleiner Perkins, John Doerr: Getting Into Trouble with Disruptors
CEO Touch the Top, Erik Weihenmayer: Climbing Everest Blind
Co-founder and CEO G2, Godard Abel: Finding Opportunity in Challenging Times
Founding CRO @HubSpot / Prof @HBS / CoFounder @Stage 2 Capital Mark Roberge: The Science and Psychology of Scaling
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