On episode 64 of The HR Famous Podcast, long-time HR leaders (and friends) Tim Sackett, Kris Dunn and Jessica Lee come together to discuss Apple's firing of a new employee based on an employee petition. Also: Cursing in the workplace.
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SHOW HIGHLIGHTS:
1:30 - The whole gang's back together again!
3:30 - KD is on the recruiting trail for recruiters! He’s learned a lot about the current market and he says the biggest thing he’s learned is that a lot of recruiters viable recruiting jobs aren't really that into the world of recruiting. Many don't work to create their own professional network, which means they're just farmers, relying on direct applies.
6:00 - Tim thinks that there isn’t that big of a difference between a recruiter with some experience and a recruiter with a ton of experience that may be getting paid a ton more.
8:20 - When is it okay to swear at work? Shoutout to friend of the pod, Suzanne Lucas for writing this piece for Inc about when is it acceptable to drop some f-bombs in the workplace.
10:00 - BTS: KD wouldn’t run Tim’s episode of Best Hire Ever because he swore too much.
12:30 - JLee shares that when Marriott was vetting Tim to come speak, one of the lawyers said that Tim had to watch his cursing.
13:30 - Back in the day, Tim auditioned to do a “kitchen nightmares” type show but for fixing businesses. The feedback he got was that he needed to curse more.
18:00 - Next topic: Apple terminated Antonio Garcia Martinez, author of Chaos Monkeys, a very successful book. He was fired from a paragraph in his book that some Apple employees found to be misogynist.
22:00 - Tim asks the question “Do platforms like Slack and Teams give people an opportunity to speak online in ways that they wouldn’t speak in person?”.
26:00 - KD thinks that the burden has never been lower and is easy to pile on. KD has read the book and talk about the fact that the book is written in a form of persona by the author. Also, Apple hired AGM even though he wrote a tell all book on Facebook, which is interesting.
29:00 - KD says that Apple will likely settle with the author for $10-15 million, based on the fact they knew about the book, had talked to references about the book and AGM is now unemployable in tech based on Apple's actions.
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