Guest: John McMahon, author of The Qualified Sales Leader: Proven Lessons from a Five Time CRO
A hell of a lot of people work in sales. But until recently, says five-time CRO and The Qualified Sales Leader author John McMahon, it was rare for colleges and universities to offer a sales degree. Salespeople had to learn on the job from experienced coaches, and adapt. And their bosses, John explains, had to themselves as agents of transformation. “If somebody’s really smart, they’re going to pick up the knowledge,” he says. “If they have what I call a PHD — persistence, heart, and desire — they’re going to learn the skills ... You’re going to have to do thousands and thousands of repetitions before you’re going to get good.”
In this episode, John and Joubin discuss lazy LinkedIn cold calls, Tom Brady’s retirement, being “married to your job,” Carl Eschenbach, crying, sales as a calling, corporate culture vs. coaching culture, adaptable workers, opportunity vs. title, Bob Muglia, transactional leaders, sad rich people, cookie-cutter advice, handshake evaluations, and David Cancel.
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#150 CEO Box, Aaron Levie w/ Mamoon Hamid: Open For Business
#149 Co-CEO Workday, Carl Eschenbach: A Life of Significance
#148 Former Snowflake CEO, Bob Muglia: The Datapreneurs
#147 Ex-Waze CEO & Founder of Post News, Noam Bardin: Hockey Sticks and Plateaus
#146 Co-founder and CEO Rubrik, Bipul Sinha: Authenticity Reigns
#145 CRO Tealium, Ted Purcell: Snap Into It
#144 CEO Lacework, Jay Parikh: Quiet Intensity
#143 CEO HashiCorp, Dave McJannet: Phase Shifts
#142 President of DocuSign, Robert Chatwani: Get Uncomfortable
#141 CEO Navan, Ariel Cohen: Be Naive!
#140 CRO Walmart, Seth Dallaire: How You Show Up
#139 CEO Coach, Matt Mochary: Coaching Greatness
#138 CEO Motive, Shoaib Makani w/ Ilya Fushman: Powering the Physical Economy
#137 CEO Oura, Tom Hale: Business & Backgammon
#136 COO Modern Treasury, Rachel Pike: Golden Ticket
#135 CMO & CSO GitLab, Ashley Kramer: The Three Ps
#134 Chief Bizdev Officer at Uber, Jen Vescio: Buy, Build, or Partner
#133 CEO Palo Alto Networks, Nikesh Arora: Create Certainty
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